SABITA SAHU : I
feel that the youth of India are going away from their Indian roots. Indian
culture is impacted by Western Education and thought, I am worried that one day
people may cut off from India’s history and the value system.
PRAFULLA MOHANTY : Your perception is true to a great extent.
But which India do you have in mind; the hoary past, the Vedic culture or the
India of today- post- Independence India?
S.S :
Certainly India after 1947, The India which we have seen during our life
time.
P.K.M : Then remember India was never a whole country
ruled by a democratic system of polity under one written constitution. The
India of the past was fragmented by different cultures because of the
differences in the values followed by different kings. There was no idea of
India.
S.S :
Yes I accept. But we have a great cultural inheritance-respect for
people and institutions, love of poetry, music and sculpture and especially a
culture of tolerance. All that is gradually changing. I feel the impact of Western
Education has changed our inherited values.
P.K.M :
After Independence we certainly accepted the British system which was
meant to create personnel to man their administration. The Macaulay system,
however, is no longer followed. But modern science and technology, space
exploration, engineering, modern medicine had to follow the West as models to
build on...
S.S :
That’s true but it has changed our life style, our family values, our
food habits and even our attitudes. No one believes now in patriotism. People
are more individualistic and pursue personal interests. Community sense is
gone......
P.K.M :
Such changes are bound to happen. We had inherited a culture of poverty
where the joint family, preoccupation with moksa, religious identities were
paramount. We never thought of cleanliness even. Health care was in the domain
of gods and saints-
S.S : Death of superstitions is welcome
but our dress, food and family life have also changed.
P.K.M :
This is because we are comparatively affluent. We have learnt to fulfil
our dreams by our own efforts. We are the maker of our own destiny. The Vedic system followed Group learning .The classroom system of the west is also a
group learning process. But modern educators emphasize the growth and
nourishment of individual talent.
S.S : That’s because of the Western impact.
The West thought Knowledge is Power .They wanted the human being to grow
powerful and dominate and now see where it has landed our modern youth!
P.K.M : Well, the Indians believed that Wisdom is Liberty. Sa Vidya Ya Vimuktaya- Knowledge is that which liberates us and where
did it land us. Whoever came to India, Alexander, Timur, Mahmud of Gazini, the Moguls
and finally the British-
S.S : That’s because we believed in peace
and coexistence and Ahimsa-
P.K.M : All those values have undergone a
sea change. Survival in an aspirant world, competitive economies calls for the new knowledge of
knowledge societies where people will be self reliant and tolerant ,
accommodative without compromising self interest and peace-loving without being
submissive-
S.S :
But the West is also learning from India, Our Ashoka, Gandhi have also
impacted the western minds.
P.K.M :
Yes Martin Luther king (jr) Thoreau and Tolstoy have enriched their
minds influenced by Indian values but what about Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Che
Guavara? If knowledge is used for domination it is not knowledge –
S.S :
Buddhism has dominated the East, Japan and China-
P.K.M : Yes,
but see what China is doing in Doklam! When knowledge stems from Trillions and
weapons of mass destruction or half- baked knowledge of God and religion you
will try to dominate.
S.S : There comes Indian knowledge to the
rescue of the world.
P.K.M :
Absolutely, but remember to enforce peace, love and tranquillity you
need power. The Mahabharata was fought for justice and peace. The two great
wars were fought for democracy. And now we fight terrorism to save
civilization.
S.S :
Can knowledge create a terror free world? Are Buddha and Gandhi still
relevant to our situations?
P.K.M : I
wish I could predict. If Gandhian economics is followed- Small is Beautiful was
basically a Gandhian idea borrowed by Sumachar-Perhaps a Village Swaraj like
polity will develop. But I don’t see that coming unless we return to the Stone
Age again.
S.S :
India can make a beginning. We can project the values of our cultural
inheritance.
P.K.M : I
can’t agree more. But it is too late for that. We may at best have a basic
component of our core values in the syllaby and courses of studies. But
knowledge must create jobs and generate wealth. We can’t pursue knowledge for
its own sake. We can’t afford that luxury.
S.S : So there is no hope?
P.K.M : Knowledge culture, civilizations are like
flowing streams. They will gather history as they flow into the sea.
S.S : (smilingly) Yes, I get the point. Thank you.
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